AKC dollar deal days???

[Moni]

I thought that this was a hoax... but sadly it is NOT! I called and asked for info about the program to be sent to me and they sent me just a PDF of this....





(I took screenshots of the PDF, but still have the PDF)

and I used this page to get the phone number to verify the info. You can also email them.

http://www.akc.org/contact/contact_akc.cfm

How is rewarding one person/kennel for the breeding of 11 litters in 9 months at all promoting responsible breeding practices????

[Hounds_N_Leo]

They tried to eliminate high volume breeders from their ranks before. The result? Loss of revenue in the EXTREME and the formation of the APR and I think another "registry". It did not affect the mass production, treatment, OR sales of dogs by those people AT ALL.

I do not condone this at ALL, but it is a business and it is not smart as a business to turn down money in droves. They are HURTING financially and given the rise in fees that has occures just for me to register a litter..let alone attend a dog show...something was going to give. This...and also their recent involvement in "mixed breeds" (again not demeaning only saying this was NOT their original purpose either as an org...another move brought on by $$$ issues).

Many people would probably love the AKC to go away. But like it or don't they DO help with anti dog regs and lobbying politicians and such..and they DO hold some mighty important records of many, many breeds. It would be not good for DOGS imo...if they went away. They could of course doubtless find other ways to cut costs...like maybe firing some people? But this was a way they chose.

I do not agree with it...but I can see WHY they are doing it. Not the first time they have given perks to HVB's and not the last...

The good part of this is that MORE HVB's will likely come back under AKC auspice...AND as a result the AKC will know where they are and be able to inspect them ON TOP OF the USDA inspections which we all know...are jokes. AKC inspections, are NOT..a joke. I know people who have gone thru them and they are extremely thorough and extremely rigorous...and that is if they are going there WITHOUT an agenda. AKC needs to inspect and revoke these people wherever possible...and inspectors do not work for free. Nor are there enough of them...because there is not enough money.

Just some things to consider.

eta: many people in Beagles...co breed. One could easily in Beagles...have more than 3 bitches bred in a year or less...of your own..then coown with someone else or two someone else's. It is a breed thing. People who have hounds...usually keep them in number...it is so in other breeds as well, German Shepherds come to mind, tho not sure if they are often AKC vs another registry. I think one can also, consider that. The number of litters you "breed" is only part of the story.

[Terry]

I agree with both of you. I personally did not register Daisy's name. I know my breeder registered the litter, but I did not send in her papers. I just didn't feel the need. I was never going to breed her, show her, etc.

[Moni]

Those are some good points, Gina. It still makes me feel ill though that they are rewarding the HVB though. Why not give discounts to breeders who has dogs that pass health clearances or get titles? Though I guess that wouldn't help much in the monetary area.

[ToBScholarly]

DO AKC do random inspections? Does the USDA?

[Hounds_N_Leo]

yes to the first...I've heard NO...to the second. I hear many USDA inspectors will announce themselves aforehand, given motivation. AKC? never heard that...breeders I know worry about inspections and the people I know who've had them...including my friend I've done breedings with...they are VERY unannounced and random.

[Hounds_N_Leo]

Moni sadly no it wouldn't the days gone by....and I speak of the 60s 70s therabouts....MOST breeders kept kennels and lots of dogs, bred more often etc because that was how it was DONE. I would wager MOST breeders were then a bigger source for "pets" for the average joe...than they are now for certain. In the absence of one source another took over, that being the Mill/HVB type person. This is what most people who harangue breeders about how often they breed forget...you still have the devil...only now it's one you don't know.

[ALDOGMOM]

This has been one of my major problems with the AKC for a long time - and this is just my opinion - obviously I am the last person in the world that should have an educated opinion about the AKC...LOL..

But here goes...

As far as I know they have never been about promoting high quality/health tested dogs. They have always been about collecting fees. This is one of the reasons that so many consumers are duped into thinking that because their dog comes with AKC registration papers they are extra special. All it basically shows me is that someone was organized enough to send in the paperwork and attach a check. (And by the way, those fees are recouped from you when you buy your puppy from that breeder.)

It does nothing to protect you from the heartbreak and/or expense that comes along with having a poorly bred dog - even though they might meet the AKC standard for the breed and be pretty to look at.

They do maintain an extensive data base (or so I've been told) of pedigrees and I think that is useful and interesting information.

I personally like the fact that they are allowing mixed breed or ILP dogs to participate in AKC events. I think that is a good thing...I think it will help get more people involved at a different level with their pets because they now have an venue to show them off. I know I am awfully proud of Bogey & Birdie's CGC certificates..LOL..

I don't know about the random inspections Jodi. I do know that when I was doing a lot of work in NC with dog theft by Class B dog dealers - we were begging the USDA for help and couldn't get any even though at that time it fell under their realm of responsibility. I was also begging the USDA to inspect some "pet shops" being run at local flea markets and we got nowhere...

I know that times must be tough at the AKC when they are running a special that looks like they swiped the idea from Pizza Hut...

[Hounds_N_Leo]

trying to be some entity with a venerable and wondrous reputation with the public and the publics complete trust, is a double edged sword.

AKC has spent a long time building themselves over and beyond what they WERE intended to be...and now when they do operate as an entity that needs money....it bites them in the arse. That is just how it is.

It's happened to banks, and investment firms alike. Your (speaking of co.'s) sterling rep can be your undoing....your need to control and be the "best"....can come back to bite you once you have to live up to those expectations you built!