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    My aunt and uncle just picked up a male Mastiff puppy yesterday. Achilles is like 15 weeks old I think.

    They are having a pig roast next saturday and want me to bring Roxy to meet the puppy. They have never had the chance to meet Roxy either.

    Now, Roxy is generally good with other dogs. Always good with nervous or timid dogs and submissive dogs- male or female. And a no-go with alpha or alpha 1 dogs.

    She is a jealous dog and will try to "break it up" if another dog gives me to much attention or tries to "take her spot". I don't let her get away with it, but I still feel it should be mentioned.

    She doesn't get a whole lot of chance to hang out with other "new" dogs. Most (not all) of the dogs she hangs out with she's known since she was little.

    So.. back to my aunt and uncle. They are new dog people. I do believe they did they're research. Achilles is from a good breeder in NY, and I've known for awhile they were planning on getting a mastiff. I thought it would take longer, but I believe Achilles must have been held back from the litter to show or for whatever reason.. the breeder decided to sell/adopt him out. 15-16 weeks is a little late i thought... but them again, maybe the breeder is really selective and wanted to find him the perfect home.. who knows?

    How do you think I should introduce them. He's not so young that anything goes... or is he? Is 15 weeks still the stage where he will go along with Roxy?

    I was at a cook out last fall and someone had a black lab puppy. under a year- probably under 6 months. I think the lab had aggression issues. Roxy could care-less at first about him, but then the lab started a low growl and had a generally aggressive stance. He would growl and nasty bark whenever Roxy was in view, and tried to lunge. After a few of these displays, Roxy growled and lunged back. And of course she's a hell of a lot bigger and sounds a hell of a lot angrier than the "cute little puppy". Needless to say Roxy looked like the asshole.

    I would like to avoid this display. On top of that the yard is not fenced in and she will need to be on-leash. Which is fine, but sometimes I think dogs do better when they are off leash. I dunno, I have friends that swear by the non-confined method and others that feel its better on-lead to keep control and "allow" the actions instead of leaving it to the dog. Obviously I would never "release the hounds" as far as introducing, but I hope you know what I mean. On lead intro.. happy dog non-leash play.

    I'm actually hoping that Roxy is going to be so damn happy to meet new people that she'll care less about the puppy. But I do want them to meet while he is young. I kinda have this feeling that someday I will need to watch him or take him for a week... or a year ... or forever... I dunno. Just a weird feeling I guess. It's probably nothing. Or I may need to steal him .. you never know! ha ha.

    I realize I'm rambling. I hope this makes sense, and I hope you actually made it through the whole thing.

    oh.. one more thing (sorry) Ever since I broke my collar bone last year, Roxy has been much more clingy and protective. Obviously she knows I was hurt and broken. Since I was always the alpha, but sorta un-able to uphold that role, I think she started to take it on herself. Less responsive to commands, ignoring me.. It's like I'm starting over lately. And Dale was no help. he doesn't correct her, he just gives her a cookie to distract her.. which basically praised the wrongdoing. yay!

    thought? suggestions? comments? ugh.

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    He's f'ing adorable...

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    And since i'll be referring her here next week, I'll need this post removed by Saturday ha ha.

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    As someone who has a dog with "issues" - the advice I would give you is to go slowly....And make absolutely sure that whatever situation you are in that you can control it...

    Neutral ground...perhaps have them walking the puppy and then meet up with them and join them on the walk so that both dogs are moving forward at the beginning...Obviously, no food, toys, etc. and no off leash interaction until you see how things go...

    I work with Birdie every, single day on the "watch me" command...Her basic obedience is solid...So when I ask her to "sit" or "down" she does it...I use the "watch me" command to help her get the focus off of the other dog and back on me...

    I would NILIF the crap out of Roxy throughout this next week...

    Good luck...And yes, he is adorable!
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    Well, at 15 weeks he is still such a baby that I doubt you'll have any issues. I would guess he will be unlikely to challenge Roxy in any way. I think the big thing is for you to think it will go well. She will pick up on your expectation. If you expect it to be hard or not go well, she'll feel that anxiety and react accordingly. If you believe this will be a fun meeting with a puppy she will likely feel the same, assuming she doesn't have issues with puppies in general. She may feel the need to put the exuberant pup in his place at some point, but that's good for him. I know Cash, at 5 1/2 months, gets the idea really quickly if an older dog so much as grumbles at him. Some puppies aren't quite as sensitive as my goofball, but most get the idea. Good luck and have fun!

    Oh, and YES!! He is freakin' ADORABLE!!
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    awwww mastiff puppy! I think Roxy will be fine for the fact he is so young she won't feel challenged at all. Like Kim said, no off leash interaction. Where in NY did they get him from? I got Daisy from NY. Dujon's Mastiffs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Terry View Post
    awwww mastiff puppy! I think Roxy will be fine for the fact he is so young she won't feel challenged at all. Like Kim said, no off leash interaction. Where in NY did they get him from? I got Daisy from NY. Dujon's Mastiffs.
    This was her e-mail to me back in August:
    The first's name is Zoe Tice, she owns Castletop Mastiffs in Pleasant Valley, NY--she doesn't have any puppies right now, but she referred me to Laura Lautner. The other breeders haven't gotten back to me yet, but I will email those to you when/if they let me know they have puppies. Lautner's puppies weren't listed--they are due in the next few weeks.
    http://www.caninecapers.us/laurelMastiffs_contact.html

    --- I'm not sure if this is where they got him from, but she did say this last week on facebook:
    " I am so excited I don't know if I will be able to sleep! We found an English Mastiff breeder and they have a fawn baby boy! Cross your fingers for me so I get him!!! I can't wait to get my puppy!!!!!!!!!!! ♥ "

    So I'm not sure who the breeder was. Although she did say the breeder was delivering him... not sure why.


    Thank you for your comments, I will try and reinforce the "watch me" command this week. I guess I'm just a nervous nelly. Plus it's a hike to NY, so it's not like I can just come home and drop her off if she's a pain.

    I'm more nervous that I will get there and they will have no idea what they are doing with a puppy - let alone a mastiff. If I have to steal him will one of you bail me out?

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    best best best best Mastiff breeder I have ever met and am proud to call a friend, and shes in NY.. http://www.beowulfmastiffs.com/

    I would just be sure to go slow, anything that happens to a puppy that age can ruin them forever so I always air on the side of caution. Stay happy and keep interactions quick and positive. Hopefully theyll know theyre both mastiffs and be smitten with each other.

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    If Roxy uses a crate - I would take it with you...That way she has her safe place to go and chill if she gets too overwhelmed...The puppy needs his crate for the same reason...

    I'm sure it will go great...Just remember to relax..
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